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Sometimes I want to be "a part of" this fandom but little by little I have backed away and now I will disappear. Here, on twitter, etc, I see two things. Total objectification of Adam, whether is be chestbert of glam bulge, eye porn, leg porn, lots of stupid and degrading labels. Now the shaming and hatred going out to other famous people when we have absolutely no idea what happened in those negotiations. My feeling about life is that when one door closes, another one, with more opportunity, opens. I rarely make statements declaring what Adam thinks or wants, but I would bet you with my life he doesn't want to see all of this bullsht from his fans. 

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I hate to see you go because you have been a valued member here for a very long time. I do understand your frustration with the fandom, however. I know that you would appreciate honest conversations that center on Adam's music and his career without judgment of people and situations about which we have no inside information.

 

I think you are safe in your assessment of what Adam wants. Please know that you will be greatly missed.

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Oh Adam, I am not dumping Adam, I am dumping you all.

 

I can live with that.  ;)

 

Seriously though, I don't know what all is going on re: objectification and/or hatred of other artists, but individual people make up a "fandom" so painting all fans with the same brush is a kind of objectification in itself, and if an artist is aware of and doesn't like something, they can use their twitter platform to say so. 

 

It's all smoke and mirrors anyway. 

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Well. I am sorry to see you go being that I've read some valuable comments that you have contributed. I cannot speak for posts on twitter, but I don't see the issues that you do on this board as being prevalent or even problematic. Hell, they're not even issues! Yes, I have certainly seen the occasional comment here re: Adam's looks/body. He IS a very handsome man and some fans are bound to banter about it and get carried away. Sometimes, I'll chuckle and sometimes I'll roll my eyes at some statements. If I feel it's a little OTT I'll generally ignore it. Bottom line: I believe overwhelmingly that the "objectifications" are just some people having a bit of fun. Doubtful that Adam would be offended AND the mods would certainly step in if things went too far. Another point I'd like to make is that the only people able to make comments here are members. I honestly feel that the (glamberts) members have nothing but the utmost love and respect, for both Adam and his music! It's almost insulting in that there are so many members who have supported Adam for years & backed his releases, yet you seem to disregard the hard work done on this board and place everyone into a box.

 

As concerns bad-mouthing other celebs, I really haven't seen much of that here either, particularly because Flash Mod wisely cut off the topic that I assume you're referring to.

 

In the end, this is a very passionate forum. People adore Adam, will cheer him, protect him and stick by him forever. And Saffron is right. You cannot paint the entire fandom with the same brush. Unfair. That said, I wish you all the best.

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Sometimes I want to be "a part of" this fandom but little by little I have backed away and now I will disappear. Here, on twitter, etc, I see two things. Total objectification of Adam, whether is be chestbert of glam bulge, eye porn, leg porn, lots of stupid and degrading labels. Now the shaming and hatred going out to other famous people when we have absolutely no idea what happened in those negotiations. My feeling about life is that when one door closes, another one, with more opportunity, opens. I rarely make statements declaring what Adam thinks or wants, but I would bet you with my life he doesn't want to see all of this bullsht from his fans. 

71_EmoticonsHDcom.png  Sorry to see you go ... but we each have to be true to ourselves and what we are comfortable with. 

Wishing you all the best and I know you will continue to get great pleasure out of Adam and his artistry 28_EmoticonsHDcom.png

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I am going to be dead-on truthful here: When I get upset about something, I immediately go to anger. It’s a safer response for me. But what I really feel in this situation is sadness. This, of course, is a much harder response than anger for me. Some of you might relate.

 

The truth is, if Adam signed on this site today and said to fans “I love being dissected into body parts and have them fetishly worshipped. Keep at it.” Or even “I don’t really care if anyone talks about my parts, etc. I’m cool with it.” I would still feel sad and upset about the objectification of him.  I would still cringe when I hear post after post about his freckle, hair curl, or see a picture of his crotch and nothing else. To be sure I certainly do not agree with Adam Lambert on every single thing in life. So even if he approves, it still makes me cringe.

 

When I see this, the sadness comes from knowing this man has spent most of his life honing his craft, working hard, disciplined, dedicated to be the best singer, the best song writer, the best entertainer.  The sadness comes from the fact that I bet most of us would be pretty grossed out if men were leering at Katie Perry’s boobs and discussing size, how much they turn them on, what they want to do, etc. Yuck. Of course this happens all of the time anyway. If we don’t accept the objectification of women, then why do we so openly and brazenly bestow upon men the very thing we don’t like? (I am speaking in generalities, here, I know.)

 

There are other artists I love, one being Patti Smith. I respect her art AND think she is physically beautiful. But I’m not of mind to objectify and fetishize her body and think nothing of it, or be exposed to others doing it, or wishing she were a lesbian so I would perhaps have “a chance with her.”

 

I am protective of things I love, just like everyone else. I want to protect his integrity, his being taken seriously and humorously and sensually. I feel there are ways of doing that respectfully. I also understand that if I don’t like the site, well then just log out. And I shall. But I want to try to explain my angst. I wanted to tell you I’m not angry, I’m sad. I am so used to being an outsider though.  I am starting my own group, which is closed off to one member right now, me. ALAS Adam Lambert Appreciation Society. 

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I agree that "glambulge" posts and crotch-shots are objectification.  But freckles and hair curls? I don't buy that.  

 

Crotch-shots and the like separate the body part the from the person, dehumanizing him or her--that's where the objectification comes in.  That's a device commonly used in porn--show just the body part without the face.  But to look at a picture of the whole person and admire particular traits that make them attractive--be it eye color, hair style, freckles, or whatever--is something entirely different.

 

I might be a little more inclined to agree, Janus, if this site were overflowing with posts objectifying Adam.  But for every post of that kind there are a hundred more discussing his integrity, his humanity and compassion, his wonderful sense of humor, and his music.  

 

Do you not think we see the whole man?

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I just read this thread from the beginning. I have to say there is truth to JJ comments to an extent, BUT the reason I love this board is because I feel completely safe to say what I'm thinking....I have NEVER admired a musician, no, a person, as much as I do Adam. And I've been around plenty of musicians. If his heart and spirit were not as it is, I would be long gone. There are plenty of pretty faces and bods everywhere. To find a character like Adam's is truly unusual. And that's why I love him!

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