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Adam tweets concerns about Trump and endorses Clinton

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Well, for fun, here is my first #RESISTANCE battle scar. Work of an ICE goon when I tried to get lawyers in to detainees during Muslim Ban 2.0. Even though the courts struck it down, people were still detained in anticipation of its passage, and ICE is still rounding up DREAMERS.

http://imgur.com/a/EUWb2

resistance bruise 2.jpg

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On 4/17/2017 at 5:19 PM, MoovieBassets said:

Two insane narcissists playing chicken with nukes and the whole world at stake.  God preserve us.

Not sure anything can help us now. What really bothers me is that when Al Franken went on Bill Maher, he said some GOP Senators have told him privately that they think Trump is, quote, "not right mentally." Yet they won't do anything. Also, Ed Markey and Ted Lieu introduced a bill to keep any president from unilaterally launching nukes. The GOPers won't do anything with it. Too fearful of Trump's base. Lieu and Markey are right - the Founders never would have allowed one person to have the ability to destroy the whole world without a check. Here is that interview with Rep. Lieu:

 

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The one thing that can help us is if the people in power reverse the path they have chosen to put us on now.

 I don't see them doing that so it's back to there is nothing that can help us.  The electoral college could have set it all straight but some of them didn't even vote for either candidate in the running. 

Yet we need to keep resisting and cannot give up.  The fight never ends.

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Picked up online that Trump is soon to sign an executive order which legally permits LGBT discrimination because of the bigot's personal religious beliefs. I hope the LGBT community take comfort that the vast majority of straight people, like myself, support them in their struggle against such bigots. 

 

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Question? Has anyone had their life changed since Trump took office? I mean really impacted not just how you feel or think? My life is the exact same as it was when Obama was in office.

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27 minutes ago, taracran said:

Question? Has anyone had their life changed since Trump took office? I mean really impacted not just how you feel or think? My life is the exact same as it was when Obama was in office.

Fortunately, he hasn't been able to do much damage yet.  I stand to lose my insurance if the health care bill passes though, because the bill would drop the decades-old mandate that large employers (like mine) must provide access to insurance for employees at group rates.  Scary thought, since I could never afford the $14,000 projected rate for an older person like me.  I'd have to go without until I'm old enough for medicare, and pray I don't get sick for a few years.

But since I wouldn't be able to afford my $600/month medication without insurance, I'm pretty much guaranteed to get sick.  And not be able to do a damned thing about it but just roll over and die.

Is that the kind of impact you mean, @taracran

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Let me further qualify my statements above.  When I say "Fortunately, he hasn't been able to do much damage yet", I mean that only from my own personal perspective.  I can't speak to any damage he might have done, or is planning to do, to other members here.  

For example:

3 hours ago, BlueTeaLady42 said:

Picked up online that Trump is soon to sign an executive order which legally permits LGBT discrimination because of the bigot's personal religious beliefs. I hope the LGBT community take comfort that the vast majority of straight people, like myself, support them in their struggle against such bigots. 

 

I can't imagine the distress the above action would cause in the lives of our LGBTQ members here.  Including, of course, ADAM LAMBERT.

By the way, @BlueTeaLady42, I saw that too.

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3 hours ago, BlueTeaLady42 said:

Picked up online that Trump is soon to sign an executive order which legally permits LGBT discrimination because of the bigot's personal religious beliefs. I hope the LGBT community take comfort that the vast majority of straight people, like myself, support them in their struggle against such bigots. 

 

Here it is:

https://www.thenation.com/article/leaked-draft-of-trumps-religious-freedom-order-reveals-sweeping-plans-to-legalize-discrimination/

The whole thing is here.

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Question? Has anyone had their life changed since Trump took office? I mean really impacted not just how you feel or think? My life is the exact same as it was when Obama was in office.

My personal thoughts:

Fortunately the Resistance has prevented him doing much damage as yet. At least not to white people. So it's all good, right? 😒  

Though it certainly hasn't been for want of trying. Repeal of ACA, jeopardizing the health and actual survival of millions with pre-existing conditions, and pricing the elderly out of the insurance marketplace altogether, is just around the corner, as is legalizing discrimination against our LGBT countrymen. And it's early days yet, so the impact of what he actually has already done (and failed to do) may not be felt yet, but will be later.

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1 hour ago, taracran said:

Question? Has anyone had their life changed since Trump took office? I mean really impacted not just how you feel or think? My life is the exact same as it was when Obama was in office.

The abstract parts of me are just as important as the material and physical parts of me.  My life has changed dramatically under Trump.   I find your 2nd question to be moot.  

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49 minutes ago, BlueTeaLady42 said:

I still can't work out the religious freedom connection to legalised discrimination against the LGBT community. Perhaps über bigot Mike Pence might like to explain.

I've never been able to figure that out either, and I'm a bible-totin', church goin' Christian.

If a baker has to sell a wedding cake to a gay couple, just how does that affect the baker's life?  Will the baker then be prevented from going to church next Sunday?  Will he be unable to pray anymore?  What is it--I just don't get it?!!  Baffling.

And another thing:  Will this "religious freedom" executive order protect the rights and freedoms of Muslims????

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4 hours ago, taracran said:

Question? Has anyone had their life changed since Trump took office? I mean really impacted not just how you feel or think? My life is the exact same as it was when Obama was in office.

I stand to lose my health insurance and won't be able to get more because I have pre-existing conditions. If the anti-LGBTQ legislation passes, I'd be able to lose my job, my housing, and access to other public services for being gay.

Also, yes, there has been an uptick in hate crimes, police brutality and the like. So, yes, Trump's election is changing things. Luckily, the courts have been a check on the nuttier proposals, but IDK how long that will hold. Don't think that just because your life hasn't changed that things aren't already worse for others. Think of the DREAMers and other undocumented people who have been here for years whose families have been ripped apart by his using police departments as ICE agents. The most heartbreaking of these instances is the little girl who has seizures whose mother is specially trained to deal with her condition, and the mother was snatched off the street and detained. Don't think that just because nothing has happened to you, that things aren't happening to others. 

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@foxeylady the "religious freedom" laws have ALWAYS just been about Christian supremacy and codifying the beliefs of right-wing Christians into law, all while giving a legal license to discriminate. It's also how they function in real life. 

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Trump very publically signed his anti-LGBTQ "religious freedom" executive order this afternoon.  The good news is that the ACLU has promised a lawsuit so, hopefully, a federal court will put the kibosh on it.  It is Unconstitutional, as it creates a second class of citizens who do not have the same rights as everybody else.  This is the same reasoning SCOTUS used in allowing same-sex marriage. Fingers crossed.

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1 hour ago, MoovieBassets said:

Trump very publically signed his anti-LGBTQ "religious freedom" executive order this afternoon.  The good news is that the ACLU has promised a lawsuit so, hopefully, a federal court will put the kibosh on it.  It is Unconstitutional, as it creates a second class of citizens who do not have the same rights as everybody else.  This is the same reasoning SCOTUS used in allowing same-sex marriage. Fingers crossed.

We can hope. With Gorsuch in Scalia's seat and the rumor that Kennedy will retire, no telling, really. There's a lot at stake - Obergefell, Roe, all kinds of things that we took for granted for a long time. That activist court is how Citizens United happened. 

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21 hours ago, BlueTeaLady42 said:

I still can't work out the religious freedom connection to legalised discrimination against the LGBT community. Perhaps über bigot Mike Pence might like to explain.

Mike Pence is insane. Look up his law from when he was governor of Indiana and tried to require funerals for miscarriages and abortions. This "religious liberty" nonsense has his fingerprints all over it. This is hardly the sort of thing a guy like Trump would care about. But, he somehow got Trump to co-sign it.

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@foxeylady Admittedly, I'm an atheist and "church goin'" is not and never will be my thing again lol. However, having been raised Christian in the south, I KNOW not all Christians are going along with Trump. How is he scaring so many people into silence? I know many are as horrified as you are. I guess 15+ years of atheism has disconnected me from all of that, but I really, really want them to know we are not terrible people, nobody is trying to take religious rights away, and nobody wants anything but to LIVE. None of this makes any sense, but it is all very dangerous.

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There is some good news today.  The version of the "religious freedom" EO that Trump signed today was not the same as the version that was leaked yesterday.  The new version was much narrower in scope.  It only repeals the Johnson Amendment, which for decades has prevented churches from becoming involved in politics (separation of church and state).

The parts of the EO which would have legalized discrimination against LGBTQ people and single mothers has been removed and replaced with a short statement that says  “it is the policy of the administration to protect and vigorously promote religious liberty.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-signs-order-aimed-at-allowing-churches-to-engage-in-more-political-activity/2017/05/04/024ed7c2-30d3-11e7-9534-00e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.a5168fe9f650&wpisrc=al_alert-COMBO-politics%2Bnation&wpmk=1

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