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@justMAX You and Dan have been brought together for a time that you need each other. This is a precious time for the two of you, and the bond that you have formed will stay with both of you for a lifetime.

People come into our lives at the time that they are meant to, and they leave when it is time for them to leave. Interestingly, sometimes people come back into our lives when we least expect it.

If your friends here on AO could, we would visit you in the hospital and help you with anything that you need. We need to come up with a way to have virtual visits with you, our dear and very precious friend.

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On 20. 9. 2016 at 0:06 PM, carter_ said:

@JustMax - the lil otters holding hands, omg so cuteeeeee

 

Hula hoop! What a surprise it still exists here! Hmmm..............

Oh God. This is wonderful. My opinion you know, but who have not noticed, at the time 1:25, the one otter kissing the hand of the other. This is a very adorable and a touching. Thanks so much for it once again.

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On 21. 9. 2016 at 10:21 AM, carter_ said:

@justMAX for you & Dan - lookie the otter babies milk faces so cuteeeeeee!

 

And this is what I really like. It's like my dream. I will can not wait to allow me something to eat, how I look forward to! What I would give for a piece of bread, one single bite. Or yogurt, at least one teaspoon, so teeny. That's exactly how I'll use it, and regardless of social etiquette while dining. Certainly I will not so cute.

Thank you, dear Carter

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On 20. 9. 2016 at 10:53 AM, sweetygirly said:

Tom,

I suggest you research Amy Van Dyken

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Van_Dyken

She is an Olympic gold medalist in swimming. She had an accident about a year ago and she fractured her spine, severing her spinal cord. She is confined to a wheelchair. She has been dealing with her injury in a very positive way. You might want to try to get in touch with her. She may be able to help you deal with your life changes.

After the Olympics, there is the paraolympic games. Participating in these games are athletes who have some kind of disability. If the paraolympic games are still on tv, or if you can watch videos of these games on tv or youtube, you will see how people in the same condition you are in can play basketball and other sports and they play very well. There are special wheelchairs for these sports. You may find that you will be able to eventually do more than your think you will be able to do.

When faced with a challenge such as yours, there is a point where your can decide how you will deal with something new that comes along. A new physical challenge, for example. You can make a decision how you will handle the new challenge emotionally. Will you be resentful, frustrated or angry? If these emotions take over, you will still face the same physical challenge. The negative emotions change nothing about the physical challenge, but they will make the challenge more challenging. If you try not to allow the negative feelings to infiltrate the challenge, you will approach the challenge in a more positive way. All those negative emotions only stress you, and that will make you feel ill. Chronic stress causes your body to secrete cortisol, which can weaken muscles and cause other physical body responses that are not good for your body.

When you go to physical therapy, leave the negative feelings outside the room before you go in. When you cross the threshold of the door, put a smile on your face and you will have positive hormones flowing through your body. If you can learn to do this every time, you will realize that the negative feelings were making you feel bad physically.

Regarding the boy. Even if you only had a short encounter with him, you may have been the medicine he needed at that moment. If the two of you part ways, you can feel great that you helped him emotionally and the fact that you extended yourself to him should become a lasting great memory for you. When you meet new people, you will likely meet the best part of them because they will realize what is important in life.

There was a song in the 70s by a group called Machine called "There But For the Grace of God, There Go I."  You were not given more than you can handle and you were not given something much worse.

Dear sweetygirly,

I would like to thank you for the link. Amy is a respectable woman. I think I already got something in common with Amy, she's almost as tall as me and we both not walk. I think for starters it is good.

I'm sorry to cause you to feel that I take a negative attitude and I'm not as positive as I should be. Believe me, my anger and grief I can vent, but I do not feel anything like that, rather I would call it differently. And I'm pretty tired of it. I earned a plastic cup for my expressions of anger, of very soft plastic, but now I have a normal, ordinary, beautiful ceramic mug. Because when I tried three times to throw on the caregiver and then those shards and mess..., they took it to me. But now I am already good and nice and for my shameful behavior was still sorry. But probably only for a certain decency, because there are too many smart people who just massaging their ego, they do not listen to, they are not tolerant, and who know what should be good or best for me and what the true feelings I would have felt.

The link from you, I really appreciate, the good to know about it. But I have no such high targets, my wish is not to do incredible things, which can not otherwise even healthy people. I only wish cope live a normal life. I do not want anything more. My efforts and beliefs are directed to that. And to a big or major decisions it is too short a time. From that day passed just cca six weeks. And for all I know, maybe actually become a miracle.

I remembered the Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro. I watched the marathon, it was very interesting and beautiful. I love sports commentary. At one a runner was shot and commentator began to talk about his health problems, which he had about a year before the Olympics. He said - and now we are looking at runner who had serious health problems with his back, he had a slipped disc and no one gave much hope that the operation will bring the desired fruit. Doctors prophesied that person concerned will probably never walk again. And then a commentator said - Yes! As we can see, he does not go, he just runs!

So nobody knows what can happen and how things eventually clears...

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AO members, it is with a heavy heart that I must inform you that justMAX (Tom) has been permanently banned from our forum.

A couple of days ago I discovered that three accounts, DannyCZ, thefox, and Dan2007 were all registered under justMax's IP address and all posts made under those accounts match his IP address as well. Also all of his posts bear the same IP address. 

First problem. If justMax was actually posting while spending weeks in the hospital after an accident, the IP address for those posts would have been very different from the posts made before the accident since they were accessing an entirely different Wi-Fi network. They would have to have been made via the hospital's network and router. Yet all posts supposedly made from the hospital originate from the same IP address as all of his prior posts. Unfortunately this calls into serious question whether he ever had an accident at all or has just been playing us all these weeks.

In addition to that, anyone except those within his own household accessing his own Wi-Fi network would also have a different IP address for their registration as well as their posts. Yet all registrations and posts made by the three accounts named above have identical IP addresses to Tom's. This of course leads me to the conclusion that he created these accounts to add credence to his fabricated story and/or more drama.

As an example, the Dan2007 account was created the most recently a few days ago, and posted in the Czech Glamberts thread identifying himself in English as the nine year old boy Tom supposedly met in the hospital, then apologizing for his poor English. The rest of the post was in his native Czech in the guise of looking for Tom but a bit later he inexplicably edited it out leaving only one word of greeting "ahoj". However,  I happened to catch,translate and save the Czech portion of the post before he edited it and its somewhat disturbing content, that Tom had disappeared in bloody pajamas, which ignited my suspicions and led me to the discovery of the identical IP addresses of the four accounts. I have attached a copy of that original post and its translation below.

I hate being the messenger to all of you that someone has perpetrated a hoax on us and taken advantage of our kindness and the loving nature of many here, but this seems to be the case and it's part of my job to inform you of it. Like you, I had become fond of Tom and concerned for his circumstances. Unfortunately people who do this kind of thing usually create a persona that's very likeable and seek sympathy for some fictional hardship. Some go on to seek financial help via private messages, etc., but so far I am not aware of anything like that in this case. If any of you do, please tell me via private message.

Thank you all who showed such love and kindness. The fact that it turned out the way it has does not mean your love and kindness was for nothing. I have no idea what motivated Tom to do something so deceitful but the reaction he got here can only do good somehow in his world. 

Over the many years since AO began we have had a number of members who played this kind of game. It's a pretty common occurrence on celebrity boards. The anonymity of members as well as the common bond of fandom make it easy to pull off hoaxes like this.  Due to this occurrence again I will no longer be allowing these kinds of threads to be posted here on AO without some definitive proof and prior permission granted through a private message. I will leave this thread intact as an example of why this policy became necessary.

Edited to add:

After I posted the above post, in an effort to defend himself, justMAX told me in a private message that he logged in to his mom's wifi network while in the hospital and allowed all the other accounts named above to do the same. He said he gave them the password. That is his explanation as to why posts made before his supposed accident match the IP of posts made after. There is no way this could be true. To post from within a hospital he and they would have to access the hospital's wifi network as his mom's would be WAY out of range to be accessed from within a hospital building. Therefore any posts made from the hospital would have a different IP address than posts made from his mom's account. Yet they are all identical.

Original Dan2007 post:

AO post by Danny2007 before editing it out..jpg

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I had moved this thread to Off Topic but have temporarily moved it back to Adam Discussion to bring attention to the serious matter of the hoax that has been perpetrated on our membership. It's important for all members and visitors to be aware of this kind of thing.  Please read my post above for explanation.

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Thank you @Flash Mod for posting this information. I wanted to show love and positivity to a person who was in need, but had grown suspicious of the many ills that had befallen Tom. He had stated in private messages many stories that did not make sense. I continued to befriend him in the event that his life was actually as disastrous as he claimed. I would much rather be thought to be gullible than to fail to show compassion to a fellow human being who is in pain.

I talked to my friends and family about the situation, and they agreed that it was fine to treat him as though his posts and messages were true until proven otherwise. We all agreed that it was very important not to release any personal information to him.

I appreciate that you have given us the information that we need to move on. We all need to keep this in mind when we are befriended by someone on the Internet. We do not know who people truly are, but we do know that there are many people like Tom who are not who they claim to be.

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People are complicated and just whyTom/Max etc.chose to deceive members of this forum the way it was done isn't known.. There were a lot of red flags in the posts, but it also wasn't known what the real intention was and it wasn't our place to call out or question another poster, so many members responded kindly. 

Now that Max has been banned from the forum, and his posts revealed as deceptive, I'd like to hope that some kind of guide/warning can be posted as a sticky to let members know these things do happen without leaving this specific example here permanently.

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1 hour ago, Saffron said:

People are complicated and just whyTom/Max etc.chose to deceive members of this forum the way it was done isn't known.. There were a lot of red flags in the posts, but it also wasn't known what the real intention was and it wasn't our place to call out or question another poster, so many members responded kindly. 

Now that Max has been banned from the forum, and his posts revealed as deceptive, I'd like to hope that some kind of guide/warning can be posted as a sticky to let members know these things do happen without leaving this specific example here permanently.

This thread will be moved to Off Topic after a while. But it will be left up there for quite a while. An actual example to refer to is far more compelling and representative of how these deceptions are often carried out than a general warning, though some kind of generic pinned post is definitely a consideration. Also, a thread with actual posts from the perpetrator serve to provide an example of that particular person's posting style, which might help in setting off red flags for future new accounts he/she might open under a different IP address as well as their possible activity on other sites.

For example, there are currently registered members here on AO that are suspected of having perpetrated deceptions using multiple accounts in the past, but as long as their behavior remains within appropriate boundaries they are allowed to participate.

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Mod,

Maybe it would be a good idea to put a post at the top of the message board before the topics to beware of this type of hoax. Someone trying to do this could become a member and private message people to scam them. There was another "beware" message about a hoax not long ago.

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Any member here who disagrees with the way this has been dealt with is certainly entitled to his/her own opinion. However, the decision to ban justMAX and his sock accounts is based on facts, sound evidence, and is final. No member will be allowed to turn this or any other thread into a forum for infighting or bashing mods for doing their jobs, thus any such posts have been, and in future will be, deleted.

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